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 Post subject: Bill Owen aka George Harry Cruzio/PlentyofFish/eharmony
PostPosted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:35 pm 
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Plenty of Fish Profile
for Bill Owen...now deleted


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l'm bill, l'm attractive,warm,educated, hard working man,caring,passionate and have sense of humour.l love watching movies,travelling and go out for dinners.l do want to meet someone who is going to love me for who l'm.to love and be loved in return,To connect with someone on a emotional and physical level. I am attracted to someone with a good sense of humor and makes me laugh. This person has to be easy-going and can fit into any situation. This partner should be family oriented.Searching for real love.


First Date
Probably cook her my mother favorite reciepe.


This man has been deleted from Plenty of Fish. I'm worried he's still very active.

I contacted him and shortly after he started wanting to chat on Yahoo.
He said he was working off the coast of So. California on an oil rig. We chatted for a week. He then had to travel to the UK to visit his daughter in Colchester/Essex. We continued chatting and he was constantly having to take other calls about drilling, etc.

Finally he wanted me to phone him. I tried but the number had the + in front of it.+447045741794. I told him I couldn't dial from my phone. He called me. Had a heavy accent and I told him it was heavy. And he sounded old. He did say he was from the Netherlands so I didn't think anything of it. The profile said he is 53 yrs. old. Supposedly a recent photo...yeah, right.

His daughter (Amy) lives in Colchester and he was visiting her for his birthday which was yesterday. Well, his profile said he is a Capricorn...that set off bells.

What really "ended" it and caused suspicion was not that he asked me for money or anything but suddenly, he had to go to Africa for his petroleum job and would be back to California in two weeks. (Bell, California). Then, he would retire and we would be together in one of his 3 homes. I said sure. See you then.

He disappeared on Friday, the 6th. No email, no messages, nothing. I noticed he's read his POF mail though, so I contacted him and told him to explain to me why he didn't write me back or anything. I also received one of the many scam mails everyone gets and saw the phone number started with the + sign. ...I finally googled his phone number and found this link:http://www.joewein.net/419/419-phone-uk.htm#phone-uk

I had my answer. His profile was still active but when I wrote to him I said I was truly sorry I ever spoke with him. Sorry forever for everything.

I also told this story to two men friends from the dating site. One works for the State Dept.

His profile disappeared as did all the correspondance. POF says they only delete the mail if someone has done something like spamming or scamming. I have tons of letters and messages but am so embarrassed I just want others to know to avoid this bill owen@yahoo or oranbill@yahoo, at all costs.

Thanks for having this forum.



After I confronted him:

from
oranbill@yahoo.com

I am lost,am gone for just 4 days and am facing all these aligations.I don't know if i told you but October 8 was my birthday,i have friend in Hong kong that Invited me there due to the golden week they were having,so i took the opportunity to have a nice birthday bash there with amy and some folks.Thats why i was totally unavailable.

I discovered i couldn't have access to pof anymore,the reason ,i don't know why and now you are saying all this things and sending me things about so called scams.
I was angry before and wanted to take actions against your friend for invading my privacy cos i also have top friends from State Dept too but am kind of happy cos he helped me close that crazy site.

Its a bit shameful that you could make up your mind easily from speculations and am sure that poor L**** could not handle competition and had to label me as scam to have you back.its a nice handiwork and he should keep it up.

I cant remember anytime or any day i have done something wrong to hurt you
now you are the one hurting me.I don't know why ppl are too eager to jump into conclusion.

I really had a nice day and the least thing is for you to spoil it with ur insinuations.

I hate people questioning my integrity. Am only replying your emails because i kind of found a nice person in you.



WHOIS - 196.47.93.178
Email link to results
Generated by http://www.DNSstuff.com


Location: Nigeria (high) [City: Lagos, Lagos]

ARIN says that this IP belongs to AFRINIC; I'm looking it up there.


% This is the AfriNIC Whois server.

% Note: this output has been filtered.

% Information related to '196.47.93.0 - 196.47.93.255'

inetnum: 196.47.93.0 - 196.47.93.255
netname: MWEB_AFRICA_VSAT_Block34
descr: VSAT-PANAMSAT-6-MWEB-AFRICA
country: NA
admin-c: FS2-AFRINIC
tech-c: FS2-AFRINIC
status: ASSIGNED PA
mnt-by: MWEB_AFRICA
source: AFRINIC # Filtered
parent: 196.47.64.0 - 196.47.95.255

person: Frederik Strauss
address: Private Bag x0001
address: N1 City
address: 7463
address: South Africa
phone: +27215968537
e-mail: ********@mweb.com
nic-hdl: FS2-AFRINIC
source: AFRINIC # Filtered

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My reply:

sorry, like i said. i don't believe you. and, i won't tell you what you want to hear either.

evidence? look:

http://www.joewein.net/419/419-phone-uk.htm#phone-uk


L**** had nothing to do with anything...it was a previous person i told who may or may not have connections and i don't know what he could have done. if you read the faqs at plenty of fish, you will see that the only way for the profile and the mail to be deleted is if the person did something wrong. spamming or scamming. i had nothing to do with it. i didn't turn you in...it's something you did. all i have is that phone number which is connected to the site of nigerian scammers.

imagine my worry when you wouldn't respond to even a birthday message. many many messages. a man as busy as you surely reads his email ...even in hong kong???lol

when i didn't write you for one day you questioned me and where i was and told me to let l**** go, remember? so, i don't think i'm wrong for worrying over you. you seemed very depressed and low in our last chat. things on your mind unrelated to work, i imagine.

i just wanted to know the man in the photo. not someone pretending to be someone else. and i thought i liked him very much. i feel foolish and embarrassed as all hell. that should make you happy. don't know what you thought or why you continued corresponding with me; i guess someone else you were writing or chatting with turned you in. it wasn't me. it was not L***.

also put your email information in arin and it reads that it was coming from sunnyvale california. now, i wonder how that can happen?

http://forums.plentyoffish.com/datingPosts6356617.aspx

i imagine you write now to find out exactly what i've done. i won't tell you anymore information. you did lie to me. numbers on phones and ip numbers do not lie.

i don't feel guilty at all. you are very lucky i have not contacted the fbi. don't write me again.

p.s. on your profile it says you are a capricorn?
if your birthday was yesterday, you are not a capricorn.

i remain sorry.


Please use caution with him. He's very charming.
I am very lucky to have caught on early in the game but not too early. This went on for almost 2 months.

I found this at yahoo romance scammers mesageboards.




Quote:
Bill Owen


--- In romancescams@yahoogroups.com, "prayer_wish" <prayer_wish@...>
wrote:
>
> I got two matches who ended up with Nigerian mobile numbers and
asked
> me to send money to them. I ended the IM's with Frank immediately
but
> continued with Bill as at the time he looked legit.
> He has sent me few of his pictures and I began to fall in love with
> him. He was British living in USA. Last friday he said he is going
to
> Nigeria and then I started to panick.
> If anyone has been on eharmony or know these two please be aware
>


Yes! Bill Owen or oranbill@... moved on to Plenty of Fish. His
acct. has been banished for scamming. My friend was romanced by this
shark and she finally found out by googling his phone number. It came
up as a Nigerian Scammer site. She also posted his photo and other
information; email,, etc. on a great site which exposes these asses
for what they are. If you have had contact with either, I urge you to
go to this site and add your story and information so the proper
authorities can collect enough to arrest them. I have reported him
but we need more information to really get him behind bars. She
wasn't approached for money. I suspect he was waiting for the
horrible "accident" to happen when he got to Africa. Claims to be in
UK, offshore drilling in CA and has visited Hong Kong and NYC in the
past couple weeks; or so he claims. Please help us capture this jerk.


and another:

http://www.internet-love-scams.org/foru ... php?t=4292






thank you
i want anyone googling his name or number to find this information.
he's hurt many women.

Here's another POF scammer. I reported him but he hasn't been deleted. It's become obvious and easy for me to spot them now. Be careful everyone!

http://www.plentyoffish.com/member5353941.htm


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 Post subject: Re: Bill Owen aka George Harry Cruzio/PlentyofFish/eharmony
PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:44 pm 
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i was matched with this guy on eHarmony. says his name is Dave Stankova, although he recently emailed me as 'Dave Jensen' using the same email address of davestan86@yahoo.com

this guy is a liar a cheat and a fraud.


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 Post subject: Re: Bill Owen aka George Harry Cruzio/PlentyofFish/eharmony
PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:46 pm 
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Bill Owen
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Dave Stankova
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Dave Jensen

davestan86@yahoo.com


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 Post subject: Re: Bill Owen aka George Harry Cruzio/PlentyofFish/eharmony
PostPosted: Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:50 pm 
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i had been in contact with this same person - from November of 2007. he was going to move here to be with me, bringin Amy, so that we could start a family together. blah blah blah.

thanks for your post - it just reinforces my gratitude that i did not send him any money, and can get on with my life.


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