I had a similar experience the last 3 days and i have to say that i understood the scam from almost the beginning but thanks to your posts in this website i was sure that it was scam... So, afterwards i had a little fun with the guy and i am posting all the conversation and i think that in a kind i got a little revenge from the guys that got scammed by this b@st@rd.
Enjoy...
From: me
To:
robbyw9@hotmail.nlSubject: Appartment at Strijpsestraat 146, Eindhoven
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 13:36:39 +0300
Hi,
My name is John and i am PhD candidate at TU/e. I had a look at your apartment and liked it very much.
I would like to ask you how much money is supplemental for the expenses as gas/electricity/water? Also,
i would like to know if it is independent or should i share any parts of the apartment with another person?
I suppose from your description that the apartment is independent.
Best regards,
john
From: robbyw9@hotmail.nl
To: me
Subject: RE: Appartment at Strijpsestraat 146, Eindhoven
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 13:00:42 +0200
Good Morning John,
The apartment is available. I really want to find a good and responsible tenant for it and i was hoping if you can send me some personal and financial informations about yourself. The monthly rent of 500EUR will include all utilities such as water, electricity, Internet, cable, parking etc. The only problem is that i had to move with my job to London, United Kingdom where i am now and i left the keys and contract already signed by me at a company called TNT and they will handle the payment and delivery for us. If you want to know more about how this deal can work please get back to me ASAP and i will send you the details step by step.
Thank you and hope to hear back from you.
Have a nice dayFrom: me
To:
robbyw9@hotmail.nlSubject: RE: Appartment at Strijpsestraat 146, Eindhoven
Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 15:14:40 +0300
Good morning again,
Well as i said i am PhD student at TU/e, at the department of Electrical Engineering. I am 25 years old and i believe that i am very responsible person. I am from Greece and i am Computer Engineer. I have just came here and i live for now in a student-house, but unfortunately it isn't quite appropriate for me and so i am looking for a better place to stay. I will be here for 4 years, and my salary is the fixed salary for PhD students in Netherlands. The first year is at about 2042Euros before taxes and 1450Euros after taxes. Each year i take a bonus at about 200 euros/month. So, in conclusion my salary before taxes is 1st Year:2042 2nd Year: 2379 3rd Year: 2492 4th Year:2612 and i pay for taxes and my insurance at about 600 Euros.
Believe me if i couldn't afford the rent of the apartment i wouldn't even send you an email, because as i said before i am very responsible person and i would lose my sleep if couldn't pay you the rent. Also, if you chose me you shouldn't be aware of the condition of the house because i tend to be very clean, i don't make noise and generally i need the apartment to relax after my work at TU/e(I leave from home at about 09:00 and i return at 19:00). It is sure that i will return your apartment in the same condition by the day i took it.
Whatever else you would like to know just ask me and i will reply the sooner possible.
Also, i would like to ask you further details about the procedure that i should follow so as to have a look at it and afterwards if everything is fine to rent it.
Have a nice day as well and i hope to enjoy your new job there!
I am looking forward to hearing from you,
John.
On 2/4/2011 7:09 μμ, Robby willems wrote:
Hello ,
First of all if you want to rent the apartment you need to pay 1month of rent + 1 month of warranty (500EUR + 500EUR = 1000EUR ) ! (but that month of warranty you will receive back after you finish the contract !
The contract will be made on minimum 2 months and maximum 9 years ! The price is cheap because i want to find a good person who take care of my apartment !
If we decide to proceed with this transaction, I will have to contact TNT and provide them all the necessary information, so they can start the process right away. I will need your full name and address for that. You will receive a notification from TNT shortly after that, together with all the instructions to follow and the invoice as well. Regarding the payment, you will be instructed to deposit the money to a TNT account. They will hold and insure your money until you check the apartment and decide if you want take it or not. That is how their buyer protection policy works. As far as my concerns, I will be glad to know that TNT has the possession of the money during the delivery period. That is my insurance.As soon as the funds have been deposited into their account, they will immediately start the shipping process.
The keys and rental contract will be delivered at your address in no more than 3 working days. You will be given a 7 days inspection period from the day you receive the keys and contract at home. If you decide to hold the apartment, then you will have to authorize TNT to release the funds to me, and the transaction will be completed. If you will not be satisfied with the apartment, you will be able to send the keys and contract back through the same service and ask TNT to return the funds to you. Through I am sure you will love the apartment, it is good to know that you do have this second option available. If you wish to proceed with renting the apartment, please provide me your full name and address so I can initiate the deal through TNT right away.
I am looking forward to hearing from you.
Have a nice day ! Date: Sat, 2 Apr 2011 21:52:43 +0200
From: me
To:
robbyw9@hotmail.nlSubject: Re: Appartment at Strijpsestraat 146, Eindhoven
Hello again,
As for the money that i have to pay, that is the normal and it happens as well in Greece. When you rent an apartment it is typical to pay 1 month rent and as well 1 month deposit in case there is a damage on the house. So, with this we are ok because that's the normal procedure and i have done the same with the room that i am staying right now.
So, i am sending you my personal information so as to start the procedure.
First name: John
Last name: xxxx
Date of birth: xxxx
Address in Netherlands: xxxx, Eindhoven
If there is anything else that you would like about my personal information, please don't hesitate to contact me.
Best regards,
John.
On 3/4/2011 8:33 μμ, Robby willems wrote:
Good evening,
TNT just noticed me that you have received the payment invoice.... Please check your new mails or spam-folder!
Let me know if is everything ok.
Thank youDate: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 20:51:34 +0200
From: me
To:
robbyw9@hotmail.nlSubject: Re: Appartment at Strijpsestraat 146, Eindhoven
Good evening,
Yes i have just received the email. Do you want to go tomorrow and pay and which is your preferred time? I am free tomorrow so
let me know what time.
Bye
From: robbyw9@hotmail.nl
To: me
Subject: RE: Appartment at Strijpsestraat 146, Eindhoven
Date: Sun, 3 Apr 2011 22:45:16 +0200
Good evening.
You can go tomorrow when you want .
Just let me know
Have a good night From: me
To:
robbyw9@hotmail.nlSubject: RE: Appartment at Strijpsestraat 146, Eindhoven
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 11:59:44 +0300
Good morning,
I have just sent you the money from Western Union. I hope is everything ok. Just let me know.
From: robbyw9@hotmail.nl
To: me
Subject: RE: Appartment at Strijpsestraat 146, Eindhoven
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 11:05:35 +0200
Good morning John,
The agent needs the MTCN number to verify that is everything ok and the shipping procedure will begin.
Have a nice day !From: me
To:
robbyw9@hotmail.nlSubject: RE: Appartment at Strijpsestraat 146, Eindhoven
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 12:09:49 +0300
I would prefer to send me the keys and afterwards i can send you the MTCN number ok?
From: robbyw9@hotmail.nl
To: me
Subject: RE: Appartment at Strijpsestraat 146, Eindhoven
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 11:13:18 +0200
The keys are in hold until you just confirm the payment your money are safe.From: me
To:
robbyw9@hotmail.nlSubject: RE: Appartment at Strijpsestraat 146, Eindhoven
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 12:17:48 +0300
Ok the MTCN is 5613464145. Let me know if everything is ok.
From: robbyw9@hotmail.nl
To: me
Subject: RE: Appartment at Strijpsestraat 146, Eindhoven
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 11:29:07 +0200
The agent says that the money is not available . Do you have the scanned paper from western union ?
Or maybe you didn`t give me the right MTCN .
from:me
You must be the biggest shit-head i have ever spoke. You thought that you could cheat a Greek?(i have got double IQ than you) Haha, we are here ten people laughing at you mother-f@cker.
I had years to laugh so much, idiot.
I hope you get cancer on your testicles and die with much much pain.
Bye shit-head...
Looking forward to hearing from you.