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 Post subject: Apparent Counterfeit Cashier's Check attempt.
PostPosted: Sun Aug 19, 2007 6:00 pm 
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Joined: Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:43 pm
Posts: 14
Location: Orange County, NY
Alledged scammer: -jake morris <jakeluvall@yahoo.com> (most likely an alias)

First (software generated) scam attempt appears innocent, although lacking in details.
Scammer is responding to an ad I posted in Craigslist-Hudson Valley, NY-Autos for sale.

-jake morris wrote:
"Hello seller,
How are you doing over there?i came accross your advert
craigslist via net while searching,i want you to know that am
really interested in the Vehicle so please get back to me as soon as
possible.....and i will be waiting to read from you.....
Regards"

My first reply:

"Hi Jake,

I am in' village', Orange County, NY, Town of 'some town', off of Route 'nn' between the Village of 'village1'(2 mi) and the Village of 'village2'(4mi).
I will be here between noon and 1PM, and also after 4PM. 845-"exc-nnnn

After I received his second reply, I recognized him as a scammer that now has my name, email address, location and phone number.

His second(final) reply:

"Hello,
How are you doing today? thanks for the quick response. i will like you to know that am highly interested in buying this 1993 Ford Escort LX Hatch.my payment for it will be through a reputable cetified check from a trust worthy client of mine.As for the shippment of the car that will be done after the payment as been cleared by your bank and you have the fund in your account.I will make the client issue out an over payment which would be the shipping cost of this car and other times have bought,i know i can trust you with my money.so when you have the fund cleared in your bank account you will have an extra sum of $100 for yourself and you will have the rest of the fund sent to the shipper via the western union or money gram in order for the pick up to come up asap.so i will like to have
1)The full name to be on the check
2)your door step address
3)your zipcode
4)your phone#
The client will issue out the payment to you via the UPS courier,i will need this info from you asap inorder for the payment to be issued asap.till i read for the details..have a blissful day.
Best Regards,"

Instead of replying, I reported this scam attempt tp both Craigslist.org(advertising site) and Yahoo.com(Jake's ISP).


Initial Analysis of above SCAM attempt.

Target: Advertiser on Craigslist.Org
Initial Method: Use of software to "Datamine" Advertisers Ads, extracting keywords and other data to generate Scam emails addressed to advertisers, expressing a high interest in the item(s) listed for sale.

At this point, the scammer does not know the seller. However, the advertiser, or even a SCAM Analyst might not identify the initial response as a SCAM. If you are lucky enough to "sense" a scam, it probably is, and responding gives the scammer your email address and probably your name and any information in the text(body) of your response.

Followup to response: Continued use of previously "Datamined" information, thanking advertiser for quick reply, repeating high interest, describing payment method from his "client", <====< Who needs AGENT to buy 93 Ford?, apparently at the advertised price (scammer is not negotiating).
Note: Scammer does not request a test drive, examination of item, or other meeting with seller. < ==< Blind Purchase?
Scammer describes shipping method of item(s) to his client
Scammer states his full trust in the seller(sucker), describes payment method for shipping and promises an additional payment of $100.00.
Scammer then requests:
1)The full name to be on the check
2)your door step address
3)your zipcode
4)your phone#
Mentions client will be issuing payment, needs my info ASAP, etc., have a blissful day. Best Regards,

What does the scammer now expect from the potential victim?
Most likely a continued exchange of email, hopefully containing valuable information from the victim to either gain access to the victim's assets and/or his identity.

What should the potential victim do:
Unfortunately, he/she has probably provided phone and address info.
Do not add to this collection with anything else, not even fake ID(this might be illegal).
Under no circumstances should he/she reply to the scammer, for any reason, not even to "Tell the Bastard Off"!
Do not solicit checks or other financial instruments and if any are sent, do not deposit them, not even into a new empty account.
Report (forward) the scam attempt to the advertising service and also the scammer's Internet Service Provider and/or other email service provider, if either can be determined.
Also report to a government agency that investigates scams, spoofs, pfishing, etc.

FINAL NOTE: Neither Craigslist.org nor Yahoo.com has responded to me.

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