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Author:  thatguysenglishissobad [ Sun Jan 14, 2007 3:00 pm ]
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armac wrote:
You being a fan of the TV show 24, do not have any understanding of money laundering. Keep watching TV.


The insult to me is obvious, to what purpose I have no idea. Yet it is interesting to see how touchy you are when someone politely questions your intent.

Author:  Bubbles [ Thu Jan 18, 2007 12:54 am ]
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I don't want to "step into anything" here.

I have read a lot of what armac has posted here and it is useful. Armac has told several times what he does. You are new.

You almost got scammed by a criminal. Armac is very "up" on the technicalities of banking and the ways these criminals use / abuse the banking system to steal money.

I hope this helps.

BTW it is good to ask questions

Author:  wezzy9w [ Tue Jan 23, 2007 5:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Hook, line, and sinker

I bit it. After all my training anbd stuff. I am now out 4700. I got the money from my bank, then they took it back when the check was reported. How can we get our money back? I am goin through the Feds and state police to try and track this guy (s) down.

Author:  annabenson [ Thu Jan 25, 2007 2:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Boris Garth

I was selling a mattress, and this guy emailed me. I even thought that the email was suspect cause it just wasn't making any sense.
I let him mail me a cheque anyways. The amount was $3500.75.
I was selling the mattress for $100.
He included a note telling me what to do, depositing the money into my account, taking out what I need, then wiring the rest to Boris Garth. I'm like, ya right a$$hole!
The cheque was signed by that Kevin Groves character, but the letterhead on the cheque is of a legitimate law firm.
I emailed him back, just said that the mattress is no longer for sale and that I will destroy the cheque once I get it (not letting him know that I already received his bogus cheque). He emailed me back, acting like he hasn't even read my last email. "Thank you for your trustworthiness, etc." English is pretty bad. I wrote back that it is no longer for sale, sorry for the inconvenience, blah blah blah.
If he writes back again, I'm gonna tell him that I know what he is trying to pull and that he needs to get lost.

Any suggestions?

Author:  stealth [ Fri Jan 26, 2007 4:11 am ]
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He presumably doesn't have a lot of personal information, so destroy the check and cease all contact with him. Delete the emails - don't read them or you will be tempted to reply. Eventually he will go away.

Author:  doecon [ Sun Jan 28, 2007 1:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Hook, line, and sinker

[quote="wezzy9w"]I bit it. After all my training anbd stuff. I am now out 4700. I got the money from my bank, then they took it back when the check was reported. How can we get our money back? I am goin through the Feds and state police to try and track this guy (s) down.[/quote]

Well, don't feel too bad (ha, lotta good that is, right). Take comfort that the longer this moron operates the more complacent he will become. It never fails, complacency will lead to carelessness and he WILL in time get nailed. Internet sleuthing is becoming more sophisticated all the time. This guy is going to send one email too many and he will be hearing the knock on the door.

Author:  ghost17 [ Sun Jan 28, 2007 10:22 pm ]
Post subject:  update

so these people stopped trying to contact me for a while. i never fell for the scam and then i got a random instant message. i kept playing dumb and refused to send money to the shipper. now they want to bring me in on the operation. they want me to work with them. obviously i am not going to allow anybody to send me money because i do not want anybody to get scammed or hurt, nor do i want to get in trouble. i am wondering however, how can i use my new position in the matter to catch them?

Author:  stealth [ Tue Jan 30, 2007 5:32 am ]
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The reality is that often there is little that an individual can do to catch them. For example, lets assume that you are in the US. Firstly the scammers would have to be in the US and have carried out a criminal act for the police FBI etc. to be at all interested. If either of those two issues do not apply, the US authorities will not be really interested at all. We're not talking Osama here after all.

Some European countries are good at taking action, but the same criteria applies. They have to be in that country and have committed a provable offence.

You could try going to a site like http://www.419eater.com to see if somebody wants to 'bait' them or even http://www.fraudwatchers.org to use the information you have to help others.

I would not recommend that you do anything on your own, especially as they have some' real' info on you.

Author:  ghost17 [ Tue Jan 30, 2007 11:42 am ]
Post subject:  sounds good

i will not take any action then as i do not want to get myself in trouble. they have sent me some people's names though so maybe i should let these people know they are in the midst of a scam? or i will just walk away completely. guess that is the safest option

Author:  stealth [ Wed Jan 31, 2007 3:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: sounds good

ghost17 wrote:
i will not take any action then as i do not want to get myself in trouble. they have sent me some people's names though so maybe i should let these people know they are in the midst of a scam? or i will just walk away completely. guess that is the safest option


I think you should stick with the safe option.

If you wish, you could send me the stuff they have sent you with people's names and I'll do what I can. If you do, could you also include the email headers as well as the message content.

You can either PM me or send it to fraudalert(nospam)@fastmail.fm

The bit in brackets should be removed of course.

Author:  jackieh4 [ Tue Feb 13, 2007 3:24 pm ]
Post subject:  I called the Alabama FBI and police - Please do the same

Hello all:

After a little investigative work, I tracked my UPS package to Huntsville, AL. I then googled the city name and the parties associated with the scam. From there, I contacted the AL FBI and the Huntsville police.
They are investigating this matter now. I also found that Mr. Eric Groves was a former Univ of Alabama engineering student and contacted his former advisors at the school in the case there was an identity theft issue.
But please call the authorities below and report your claim so that an officialc ase may be built against the perpetrators.

Alabama FBI: (205) 326-6166 or (251) 438-3674
Huntsville Police: (256) 213-4500 or (256) 213-4503

Please call -- the bigger the case the better the chance these folks will do some time.

Author:  admin [ Tue Feb 13, 2007 9:56 pm ]
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I just have to say, please only call the numbers listed if you live in that area . . . . if you live in another state you must call the FBI and police in YOUR area!

Author:  christina [ Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:52 am ]
Post subject:  help

iNEED GUIDENCE I STARTED WORKING FOR VEMMABUILDER IN SEPT 2006 TO PLACE ADS ON DIFFERENT WEBSITES TO PROMOTE THEM AND THEIR PRODUCTS. TOWARD THE END OF OCT I RECEIVED A MONEY GRAM MONEY ORDER CHECK FOR THE AMOUNT OF $890. I CASHED IT EARLY NOV. AT A LOCAL QICK SHOP. ABOUT A WEEK LATER RECEIVED ANOTHER FOR THE SAME AMOUNT. AGAIN CASHED IT . NOW, I GOT A CALL FROM THE LOCAL POLICE DEPARTMENT . WENT DOWN THERE AND WAS PLACED UNDER ARREST FOR 2CTS OF THEFT OVER 500 WHICH IS A FELONY AND A CT FOR THEFT SCHEMING. WAS TOLD BY THEM THAT THE CHECKS WERE COUNTERFEIT. i HAVE TRIED TO CONTACT BRIAN VERGIN THE ONE WHO INTIALLY GOT ME STARTED. HE HAS IGNORED MY EMAILS AND PHONE CALLS. NOW I AM LOST FOR WORDS ALL I CAN DO IS TELL EVERYONE WHO WILL LISTEN. BEWARE OF ANYTHING DEALING WITH THE INTERNET. AND I NEED HELP, INPUT, GUIDENCE.

Author:  admin [ Wed Feb 14, 2007 1:50 pm ]
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Christina,
You need a good lawyer.

Please read this post.
http://scamvictimsunited.com/phpBB2/vie ... php?t=1672

Author:  jaimela [ Tue May 22, 2007 9:53 pm ]
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When all else fails try contacting your congressman. It's absolutely amazing the things their people can speed along.

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