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 Post subject: My on investingating....
PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 11:19 am 
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Long story short.
Overpay check scheme got me.

I have the location of the money transfer (brick & mortar location) they used. I have a lan line phone number. I have another phone number that goes right to voice mail.

I also have him on the hook waiting for more money. Currently in communication with him via email.

I have done all the steps, filing reports to my local police, IC3, leaving messages with state authorities and talked to my bank.

I haven't had a single response from anyone.
This being time sensitive, I am running out of time.

Any suggestions as to what I should do?


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:15 pm 
When you say, you have the location of the money transfer, what do you mean?


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 Post subject: I know
PostPosted: Fri Dec 15, 2006 8:52 pm 
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the exact location he went to to send the Fedex package (fake check).
I pretty much know the town he lives in.
He also had picked up the wired money in the same area.


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PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 9:38 am 
WU told you where the money was picked up?


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 Post subject: Im sorry
PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:23 pm 
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I meant to say that I know where the bad check was sent from, the Fedex/Kinkos location.
My next step is to to get MoneyGram to tell me where the money was picked up. The amount of money was greater than $900, so the remainder was given in a money order.


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:35 pm 
It was picked up out of the US. You really have no leads.


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 Post subject: However
PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 9:02 pm 
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there is a middle man in the US.
Is catching the middle man good enough?
How would I know for sure the wire was picked up out of the US?


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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:27 pm 
They are using a transhipper, he or she thinks they are working for someone outside of the country. They do not know the whole thing is illegal. That is usually the case. They were more than likely "hired" over the internet on Careerbuilder.


I have worked several of these cases, you never get the real bad guy. just another unwitting victm.


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 Post subject: Understood..
PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:22 am 
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However I would be feely partly vindicated for at least possibly stopping this one scammer. At least maybe let someone know that I will do what I can to interupt his little scheme. I know it might not stop it, but it's better than doing nothing about it. I think.


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:28 am 
go after them................good luck


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PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:29 am 
What phone numbers do you have, if you have lost money, feel free to post them.


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 Post subject: Both California numbers..
PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 2:50 pm 
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415-335-7172
619-241-4488

FedEx Kinkos money order sent from:
215 Summit Park Dr
Pittsburgh, PA 15275
(412) 788-0552

emailer:
mike9000_5@operamail.com


I am working on getting a subpoena to request the reciever of the money order.


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 Post subject: i have this guy on the hook
PostPosted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:57 pm 
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so i googled the number this guy called from today because i know this is a scam already. when he wants to send me a check for 2500 bucks and my item was only selling for 200...uhhhh, it sounded a little fishy. anyways, he called from the 619 number. he sent me the check today UPS overnight. obviously i am not going to cash it. if there is any way i can help. let me know. the check came from huntsville alabama.


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 11:50 am 
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Did you confirm from UPS that it was shipped from Alabama via the routing number?
What was written on the package was different from where it was actually sent.
Was the voice the same as the voice on voicemail?

I'm not aware of a way to track who picks up the wire money, or a way to "mess up" his request to force him to do something he wasn't planning on. Pretty hard to say no to free $2500, especially if he thinks hes getting away with it.
Is there a way to red flag the money transfer to alert authorities?
I'm not sure, but this guy seems to be working from inside the country.


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 Post subject: not sure
PostPosted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:13 pm 
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I dont know because i have never really wired money to anybody. The return address on the package actually says Iowa but the package according to the tracking number came from Hunstville, AL. If you can find out if the transfer can be red-flagged, then I would gladly work with you on it. I actually had called the cops a couple weeks ago when these communications with the guy started. Surprised I have been able to keep him on the line this long. I am really just messing with him right now. Probably frustrating him a little but I am trying to get as much out of him as I can. his email address for communicating with me is cliffordsmith00@yahoo.com. last night at 230 in the morning he tried instant messaging me on Yahoo Messenger. i wasnt up to respond but is there a way to get an IP address to track him down?


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