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 Post subject: Any other victims in Pa?
PostPosted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 11:18 pm 
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I am located in Pa and am looking for an attorney. Anyone know of a good one willing to sue the bank?


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Why sue the bank?


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 Post subject: Re: Any other victims in Pa?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 9:38 am 
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kfalon wrote:
I am located in Pa and am looking for an attorney. Anyone know of a good one willing to sue the bank?


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if you would like to look into the possibility of a civil or even class action suit against the bank, please contact

Jim at
The National Center for Victims of Crime
2000 M Street NW, Suite 480
Washington, DC 20036
1-800-FYI-CALL
http://www.ncvc.org

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 Post subject: Why sue the bank?
PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:06 am 
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armac wrote:
Why sue the bank?


Why you ask? Because They were well aware of these Counterfeit cashiers Checks being circulated. (At least one rep in the loss prevention department admitted to me). I specifically asked them when the money from the Michigan Bank it was drawn on would be deposited into the account. The teller left and asked someone and came back and told me the check was good. The rep in loss prevention said that “she thought you were asking when the funds would be available”.
I speak English fluently! HOW IS HER NOT LISTENING TO MY QUESTION NOW MY PROBLEM? This is the banks mistake, not ours. If they would have said wait 2 weeks, 2 days, 2months whatever….I would have waited. I am not the finance expert here, they are. Since when did I become a professional Cashiers check checker! I have no way of knowing whether there have been other victims who bank at Citadel for a class action suit, but I do know according to an interview given by Sgt. Detective Thomas Goggin of the Phoenixville Police Department on Thursday August 3rd 2006 in the Phoenix newspaper that there are 3 cases (including us) of Cashiers Check Fraud recently in Phoenixville. Although I applaud his effort in attempting to warn my community of this fraud, unfortunately his personal advice to the public in this article was “the best thing to do is to discuss with someone at your bank when you deposit the check any concerns you might have.” I DID THAT! Asking doesn’t protect you, the bank does not accept any responsibility for their error. Detective Goggin is giving people a false sense of security here.
Victims are being treated as if they are the Criminals. Isn’t it time someone does something about this?


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 5:55 pm 
You are responsible for what you deposit


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kfalon, reading your story reminds me of how I felt when we became victims of this scam. We felt like we were not only scammed by the people we sent our money to, but our bank also. I agree with you that when a customer asks when the check is good/when it will clear what the person is asking is "when will we know that this is a legit check and that I will not encounter any problems if I use the money", but so many times what is told to the customers is when the money is available for them to use . . . no one tells you until it is too late that just because they are allowing you to use the money does not mean that anyone has verified that it is legit.

That is why I personally wish that the banks had a policy that said if the check is over X amount (let's say $5000) that the customer has to sign a document that says that they understand that they can use the money in 24 hours, but if a complication comes up with the check they are still liable. Had my bank done that I would have asked them how long do I have to wait so that I can use the money and not have to sign this document, and if they would have said 3 weeks, I would have told them that I would be back in 3 weeks. The issue for me was never about how fast could I get the money, it was about what is the time period that it takes for a check to clear, be verified, be found legit.

Until banking laws change, the customers are the ones who are liable in cases like these, but I still feel like many banks are not telling customers the whole truth and really listening to what the customer is asking so that the customer is going away misinformed about the banking system. Sometimes a good lawyer can get the moral spin on things and show that the bank was not practicing good business not disclosing all the information to the customer, but most victims do end up paying the bank the money back. I know of a handful, including us, that have come to out of court settlements with the bank.

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